Civil War thread

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    On this day 158 years ago the largest battle of the war up to that point would happen in northwest Arkansas at a place called Pea Ridge or ElkHorn Tavern. The Confederates under the infamous womanizer Earl Van Dorn attacked the Federals under Samuel Curtis in a bold two pronged attack.
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    The Confederates were had quick and early success. However, the second in command General McCulloch who lead one of the wings was killed. His second in command General Macintosh was killed just a few minutes later throwing the Confederate plans into chaos. The Confederates and Missouri State Guard still managed to take Elkhorn Tavern. However, they lost pretty much all their momentum giving the Federals all the momentum for a second day of battle.
     
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    There was controversy. Apparently, Indian Confederates under Free mason Albert Pike scalped and mutilated wounded Federals. He was apparently somewhat complicit, he fled to Texas until his resignation was accepted.
     
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    All this killing just to have control of a bar. Were these guys alcoholics or something?
     
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    One of the few times the South attacked from the North. Another rarity was significant snowfall during the battle.

    Oh, and the debut of this beauty:

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    Van Dorn is an interesting case. We should discuss sometime.
     
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    The Confederate commander Earl Van Dorn would lose his life a little over a year later in an un
    A few years ago I found a compilation of southern newspaper articles talking about his murder. It was pretty funny because they were all basically "We regret to inform the reader of the death of the brave and gallant General Van Dorn...but he had it coming."
     
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    I just made the mistake of buying Don Troiani print of Barksdale's Charge at Gettysburg.
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    On this day, you would see the first significant troop landings at Pittsburg Landing otherwise known as Shiloh. Due to miscommunication between Grant and his commander Henry Halleck, Grant had been removed from command and it fell to C.F. Smith. If you've never heard of Smith worry not, because very few have. While jumping from one boat to another he banged the shit out of his leg and couldn't walk and died a few weeks later from blood poisoning. Troops and support would continue to land there for weeks leading up to what would become the battle of Shiloh and eventual siege and capture of Corinth.
     
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    While the Federals begin amassing at Pittsburg Landing, the Confederates under Albert Sidney Johnston were reeling. Johnston correctly realized Corinth would be the goal. So he drew the soldiers he could from his 500 mile front and brought others from the coast. However, it was pretty much a done deal. The Federals had broken the back of the Confederates.
     
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    Around this time 158 years ago the Confederate commander of the Army of Mississippi; Albert Sidney Johnston made the decision to attack Grant's Army of the Tennessee at Pittsburgh Landing before they could be reinforced by the Army of the Ohio under Don Carlos Buell and outnumber the Confederates.
     
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    It really is amazing how well they did on that 1st day. Would you say they were closer than the AOV @Gettysburg to success?
     
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    The secesh were doomed to fail at Shiloh, but they still did really well all things concerned.
     
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    My boys and I had an epic battle right there 3 weeks ago with those little spikey things that fell off the tree on the left.
     
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    Today the Confederates would begin slowly and clumsily making their way to attack Grant at Pittsburg Landing over muddy roads and heavy rainfall. Inexperience of both enlisted men and officers slowed them even worse. They were also spread out. BF Cheatam's division was around Purdy Tennessee and Breckenridge's Reserve Corps was around Burnsville Mississippi. Roughly 40,000 men would make the 24 mile march. The Confederate battle plan was extremely complicated. It was drawn up by PGT Beauregard and meant to drive the Federals away from the landing into the Owl Creek bottoms where Johnston said "They'd be obliged to surrender."
     
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    Throughout the 4th and 5th the Federals were in regular contact with the approaching Confederates. They still had no idea Johnston was moving his entire army on them.
     
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    I'm late, but around 2:30 Confederate general Albert Sidney Johnston was mortally wounded and died shortly after. He had been shot in the back of his knee severing his popliteal artery and bled out after leading Statham and Bowen's brigade in an attack through Sarah Bell's peach orchard.
     
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    Around this time Beauregard ordered a general retreat back to Corinth and tried to break contact with the counterattacking Federals. Several hours before he sent a message to Richmond that said "A great victory has been won."
     
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    Have you been in the park the past couple of days? I would think it surreal and a special moment.
     
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    I haven't so far this year.

    sucks.

    First light in Fraley field still gives me chills any time I do it.
     
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    You in Conway?
     
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    No, I moved back to northwest Mississippi.
     
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    Today marks the anniversary of the biggest naval disaster in U.S. history with the explosion and sinking of the Sultana just north of Memphis. It was a steamer only meant to carry a few hundred. It was loaded with over 2,300 Union POWs heading home after the end of the war. It had a bad boiler and in the middle of the night it exploded. Estimates are that there were 1,168 killed. It was largely ignored.
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    This is a picture of the ship taken in Helena Arkansas a day before it exploded and sank.
     
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    If any of you queers find yourself in southwest Tennessee, feel free to visit Shiloh.
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